Friday, February 1, 2008

In's and Out's of Car Rental Insurance

Your in Hawaii on vacation. You get your flower lei and your luggage and jump on the Car rental bus to your agency. Standing in line, you hear someone SCREAMING about some damage to their car and upset that they have to pay for it. Then its your turn. "would you like the complete protection package?"

Okay....everyone knows that the car rental agencies are in the business to make a buck. But when they offer you the car rental insurance packages, you always get the guilty sob story of how you will be responsible for all damage to the car and to the other person and property. The big question is..do you need to pay or not?

If you haven't already, check out my entry on Insurance Coverages by state. this will give you an idea of what kinds of coverages are free and clear (if any) without any additional cash.

i wrote this blog entry a few years ago, but much of it remains current.




It depends on your point of view and your individual situation. I will break it down as easy as I can.

LDW- Loss Damage Waiver. Forgives any damage to the rental car only
ALI- Additional Liability insurance. Actual insurance policy against damage to other people's person and property.
PEP- Personal effects protection. Really cheap and a great idea in crime rich areas.
PAI- Personal accident insurance. If you or your traveling party gets hurt, you have medical.

From the Manager's perspective, its always adviseable to take the insurance coverage, because its not insurance, its loss damage waiver. If you are in a single car accident, meaning you hit a rock in the road, or a deer, or your tire blows out and your car rolls, the car damage is 100% forgiven, it never hits your insurance and your insurance will not go up because its not reported to your insurance. The key word is "forgiven."

If you have the liability protection add on, then if you hit someone elses car, the liability coverage will kick in, and it never hits your insurance coverage. Your insurance company can raise your rates, but it cannot raise them too much because their rate adjustments are based upon damage value paid out. Avis does not report this information to third party requests, only that an accident occurred and it was paid out.

If you choose to use your credit card insurance (standard) then you MUST report to your personal insurance company before your credit card will pay out, so if you have insurance, its likely that your credit card will only pay the deductible. (crappy)! and then your insurance rates will go up if your at fault.

if you choose some sort of extended insurance coverage from your credit card company, you still must report the accident to your insurance company before they will pay out, but it would be listed much as the above liability from avis.

As an insider who has rented out more cars than you will ever SEE, consider partial damage waiver. Some states allow for the first 3000 dollars coverage for a lesser price. Also consider each state independently. A quick look in the computer shows some rates in some states as high as 22.99 per day and as low as 10.95 per day for the same car. Ten bucks a day to ensure all the small dings dont hit your insurance and raise your rates is a pretty good thing.

Some states also require no fault or basic coverage by law. If thats the case you have the state required minimums liability coverage included in the rental price, but no loss damage waiver. (see previous blog post).

also, look into the insurance coverage at the kiosks in the airport. those flight insurance coverages almost always have a LDW and liability component available and its often cheaper than the rental agency prices.

Finally, not all private insurance policies will protect you in a rental car. check with your company. Even if they protect your rental car, they may only protect your car if you have the collision coverage on your policy. No collision, no ldw coverage for your rental car. Some insurance companies by agreement/legal action cannot operate in certain states. So check your policy. Some car insurance companies had their licenses yanked for non payment and other things.

so if it were me,
if i had a car worth 25k at home and its fully insured, i would not buy insurance at the car rental location

if I had a car worth 12k at home and its fully insured, i might consider partial coverage, or coverage from an outside vendor.

if I had a car worth nothing, and had only liability coverage, i would look at each state that I fly to and decide if I needed coverage based upon the price. I would definitely depend upon my credit card insurance.

if i had no car at home, id use credit card insurance solely.

but thats me. everyone needs to look at their own situation, assets they want to protect.

after all, being sued for 100,000 usually means nothing if you have no assets at home for them to seize.


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Car Rental Insurance: What does the rental company give me for free?

Okay, Always a Controversial topic. To those of us who travel often enough to end up pondering this question several times a year, its an easy answer. Someone along the way has given us a great answer to the issue.

But for the overwhelming masses, its still quite the question mark. Do we or Don't we...that is the question.

A while back, I was asked this very same question on a travel forum. Here was my answer (edited for grammar...well...a bit). It explains the state minimums. In my next post, I will explain the in's and out's of car rental insurance and when it would be best to use it.


State Minimums according to law.
In this graphic he first two numbers refer to the amount of personal injury coverage per accident as 50,000 per person injured and 100,000 maximum per accident (see Alaska). The final figure refers to the total amount paid for property damage which in this example is 25,000. Car Rental Companies for the most part provide this level of liability insurance, called Basic Liability Insurance, on EVERY Rental Car Dependent upon state of Rent. On one way rentals, the State of Origin Represents the Coverage limits on Accidents Occurring Out of State.

NOTE: These Coverages are the basic coverages required by law. Certain States have laws that Dictate exactly how this coverage is used. See the end of the list for further information on Coverages. If anyone here knows who is primary and who is secondary in each state, Ill update this list.

Alaska 50/100/25
Alabama 20/40/10
Arkansas 25/50/15
Arizona 15/30/10

California 15/30/5 (state minimums, but rental cars are exempt, CALIFORNIA: Automobile Liability and Property Damage Protection is not included in the rental rate. The customer may provide automobile liability insurance through their personal insurance policy or may purchase Additional Liability Insurance.

Translation: California does not require any insurance proof on rental cars, but requires Rental Car companies to show proof as owners, therefore there is no basic insurance at all as far as the customer/renter is concerned. You may purchase additional or use your personal policy in the state if your policy allows for it.)

Colorado 25/50/15
Connecticut 20/40/10
Delaware 15/30/5
Florida 10/20/10
Georgia 15/30/10
Hawaii 20/40/10 (In Hawaii, your personal car insurance is primary, regardless of credit card coverage. LDW and ALI Circumvents that and would be primary. I know this from personal experience, dang nabbin lava rocks!)

Idaho 20/50/15
Illinois 20/40/15
Indiana 25/50/10
Iowa 20/40/15
Kansas 25/50/10
Kentucky 25/50/10
Louisiana 10/20/10
Maine 50/100/25
Maryland 20/40/10
Massachusetts 20/40/5
Michigan 20/40/10
Minnesota 30/60/10
Mississippi 10/20/5
Missouri 25/50/10 (MISSOURI: Avis does not provide Automobile Liability Insurance and Property Damage Protection unless the renter /authorized driver does not carry a personal automobile liability insurance policy. If the renter or authorized driver does not carry a personal automobile liability insurance policy, Car Rental companies will provide this coverage up to the financial Responsibility Limits (FRL) at no additional charge in most cases.

Translation: Under Missouri law, Car rental companies do not provide any insurance if you have your own insurance policy. If you do not have any insurance, then the car company will provide it free of charge to the state minimums. you can purchase additional if you desire. This law basically means that the car rental company will never be primary on insurance if the renter has a policy in their own name. Even if you lie to the rental company, they can do an insured search (post accident) and if your name comes up with a policy anywhere, your responsible for all liability. Essentially, Car Rental Companies are a non entity in this state under any lawsuit for damage you incur if you have your own personal insurance. so no sense in purchasing any insurance at all here unless you are from out of country)

Montana 25/50/10
Nebraska 25/50/25
New Hampshire 25/50/25
New Jersey 15/30/5
New Mexico 25/50/10
Nevada 15/30/10

New York 25/50/10 (NEW YORK: Car Rental companies provide liability coverage for its vehicles as required by applicable law. In most instances, this will include coverage for the renter or authorized driver up to the Financial Responsibility Limits of the applicable jurisdiction at no additional charge.

Translation: New York used to not allow the sale of insurance to its customers and required LDW and State minimum ALI to be included in price, which is why New York prices tend to be more expensive. The following changes to the law, effective February 24, 2003:
* In accordance with the provisions of the statute, car rental companies may hold authorized car rental drivers liable for actual damage to, or loss of, a rental vehicle, up to the full value of the vehicle. (Previously, authorized drivers were only held liable for damage up to $100, except in certain limited circumstances)
* Car rental companies will be permitted by the NY state law to offer for a daily fee OPTIONAL Collision Damage Waiver (also known as Loss Damage Waiver) vehicle protection. (Previously, car rental companies were not permitted to offer these optional products.)

What this means that most car rental companies, in New York, provides liability coverage up to the state minimums, where before it used to include everything.)

North Carolina 25/50/10
North Dakota 25/50/25
Ohio 12.5/25/7.5
Oklahoma 10/20/10
Oregon 25/50/10
Pennsylvania 15/30/5
Rhode Island 25/50/25
South Carolina 15/30/10
South Dakota 25/50/25
Tennessee 25/50/10

Texas 20/40/15 (TEXAS: Automobile Liability and Property Damage Protection is not included in the rental rate. The customer may provide automobile liability insurance through their personal insurance policy or may purchase Texas Automobile Rental Liability Insurance. )

Translation: The state of Texas regulates the insurance of car rentals in the state. They fix the price and coverages for liability and from what I see may even administer it. It does say that Car Rental companies cannot force you to buy liability insurance and it warns you that the Car rental company does not provide any coverage whatsoever unless you purchase it directly from them. Liability is through your own insurance if allowed by your company, and through their TARLI program. Vehicle damage is still your responsibility and LDW can be purchased. In state residents are required to show proof of insurance at the time of rental (I have been told, and many texas renters tend to bring their proof of insurance with them when they travel). )

Utah 25/50/15 (UTAH: Car Rental Companies do not provide Automobile Liability Insurance and Property Damage Protection unless the renter or authorized driver does not carry a personal automobile liability insurance policy. If the renter or authorized driver does not carry a personal automobile liability insurance policy, Avis will provide this coverage up to the Financial Responsibility Limits (FRL) at no additional charge.

Transalation: Under Utah law, Car Rental Companies do not provide any insurance if you have your own insurance policy. If you do not have any insurance, then Most Car Rental Policies will provide it free of charge to the state minimums. you can purchase additional if you desire. This law basically means that the car rental company will never be primary on insurance if the renter has a policy in their own name. Even if you lie to the rental company, they can do an insured search (post accident) and if your name comes up with a policy anywhere, your responsible for all liability. Essentially, the rental company is a non entity in this state under any lawsuit for damage you incurr if you have your own personal insurance. so no sense in purchasing any insurance at all here unless you are from out of country)

Virginia 25/50/20
Vermont 25/50/10
Washington 25/50/10
Wisconsin 25/50/10
West Virginia 20/40/10
Wyoming 25/50/20

In some states the liability coverage that is provided is excess to any other applicable coverage. This means the renters personal automobile liability insurance is used first and the Avis protection will not apply until the renters/authorized drivers insurance, if any, has been exhausted. Please check with the rental agent or nearest Avis reservation center regarding the applicability of automobile liability coverage to specific locations.

transalation: Your personal insurance may be primary depending upon the state in liability issues. HOWEVER, LDW is "loss damage waiver", not "loss damage insurance" which means that the wavier is not an insurance, therefore there is no damages that should be reported to your insurance company, rendering the damage to rented vehicle question moot. But damage to other person and property would go according to state law. In some states, your personal insurance is ALWAYS primary. In others, credit card and purchased additional insurance is primary. ask each state you visit for the difference.

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